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		<title>Comment on Iranian Women’s Soccer Team Banned from Chance to Compete in Olympics because of the Wearing of Headscarves by Mr-fair</title>
		<link>http://feministlookingglass.com/2011/06/07/iranian-women%e2%80%99s-soccer-team-banned-from-chance-to-compete-in-olympics-because-of-the-wearing-of-headscarves/#comment-6513</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr-fair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 20:15:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh I 4gort look at the bottom of the screen western way of feminisim &quot;women hit the stge for &quot;Naked&quot; for feminisim &quot; like that upholds Femsles modesty hay . But it&#039;s dehumanizing to cover up .Seriously Please. Females not animals&quot;sex icons&quot;!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh I 4gort look at the bottom of the screen western way of feminisim &#8220;women hit the stge for &#8220;Naked&#8221; for feminisim &#8221; like that upholds Femsles modesty hay . But it&#8217;s dehumanizing to cover up .Seriously Please. Females not animals&#8221;sex icons&#8221;!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Iranian Women’s Soccer Team Banned from Chance to Compete in Olympics because of the Wearing of Headscarves by Mr-fair</title>
		<link>http://feministlookingglass.com/2011/06/07/iranian-women%e2%80%99s-soccer-team-banned-from-chance-to-compete-in-olympics-because-of-the-wearing-of-headscarves/#comment-6511</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mr-fair]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 20:10:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If it was Hindu women wear there belief or Jewish women with there head shaved wearing a wig or nun&quot;s playing soccer it will be all good what part of it is &quot;unsafe&quot; it&#039;s football not tackle football . Muslims are used to discrimination anyways!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If it was Hindu women wear there belief or Jewish women with there head shaved wearing a wig or nun&#8221;s playing soccer it will be all good what part of it is &#8220;unsafe&#8221; it&#8217;s football not tackle football . Muslims are used to discrimination anyways!!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Top 10 Feminist Songs by Cat</title>
		<link>http://feministlookingglass.com/2010/05/03/top-10-feminist-songs/#comment-6498</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Cat]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 May 2012 12:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That song horribly mocks and insults people with eating disorders. That&#039;s by no means empowering.
Which is a shame, as she also did 18 Wheeler, and U + Ur Hand, which I do find empowering.

I&#039;d recommend some Garbage tracks like &#039;Androgyny&#039; and &#039;Sex is Not the Enemy&#039; :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That song horribly mocks and insults people with eating disorders. That&#8217;s by no means empowering.<br />
Which is a shame, as she also did 18 Wheeler, and U + Ur Hand, which I do find empowering.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend some Garbage tracks like &#8216;Androgyny&#8217; and &#8216;Sex is Not the Enemy&#8217; <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;I Believe in Women&#8217;s Rights.  So Did Muhammad&#8221; by r.b</title>
		<link>http://feministlookingglass.com/2010/06/15/i-believe-in-womens-rights-so-did-muhammad/#comment-6490</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[r.b]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 May 2012 21:45:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You have misunderstood the verse. This is the verse: 
&#039;And all married women (are forbidden to you) except those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful to you are all beyond those mentioned, so that you seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery. And those of whom you seek content (by marrying them), give to them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what you do by mutual agreement after the duty (has been done). Allah is ever Knower, Wise.’

At the time, the tradition was that women who were captives of war who left behind their husbands in the domain of war and entered the domain of Islam, their marriages were nullified. But since slavery is abolished now worldwide, none of this would apply.

When Islam first came, slavery wasn&#039;t abolished completely because it was so integrated into society it would have destablised the whole society financially, and structurally, it just wasn&#039;t compatible. However Islam set in place a system that would slowly but surely eradicate slavery altogether with the spread of Islam, hence there is believed to be a high reward for freeing a slave, also it was only allowed under a fully operating khilafa, so it could be regulated and not abused. Islam gave slaves rights, so its not how we usually think of slaves. They&#039;re basically same as anyone else, they&#039;re like maids/servants rather than &#039;slaves&#039;. So you have to treat them well, and feed and clothe them with the same standard you yourself wear and what you give to your own family.

So regarding marriage, the actual contract makes official the passing of guardianship from the father of the girl to the husband. That&#039;s what it is essentially, however for a slave girl, her guardian is already the &#039;master&#039; so the actual marriage is not needed, but she practically has the same rights as a wife. So if the owner and slavewoman want to have a relationship they can without the marriage contract. However the quran says that you&#039;re not allowed to force them against their will, and its only if they agree to it. Any children born would still have the same rights as any children born under a marriage contract. 

I&#039;m using the words &#039;master&#039; and &#039;slave&#039; for want of better words to be honest, I don&#039;t really like what they imply but just using them for explanation purposes. No human has the right to &#039;own&#039; another human being, so the words servant or maids are much better choices, I just used &#039;slave&#039; because you did.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have misunderstood the verse. This is the verse:<br />
&#8216;And all married women (are forbidden to you) except those (captives) whom your right hands possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. Lawful to you are all beyond those mentioned, so that you seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery. And those of whom you seek content (by marrying them), give to them their portions as a duty. And there is no sin for you in what you do by mutual agreement after the duty (has been done). Allah is ever Knower, Wise.’</p>
<p>At the time, the tradition was that women who were captives of war who left behind their husbands in the domain of war and entered the domain of Islam, their marriages were nullified. But since slavery is abolished now worldwide, none of this would apply.</p>
<p>When Islam first came, slavery wasn&#8217;t abolished completely because it was so integrated into society it would have destablised the whole society financially, and structurally, it just wasn&#8217;t compatible. However Islam set in place a system that would slowly but surely eradicate slavery altogether with the spread of Islam, hence there is believed to be a high reward for freeing a slave, also it was only allowed under a fully operating khilafa, so it could be regulated and not abused. Islam gave slaves rights, so its not how we usually think of slaves. They&#8217;re basically same as anyone else, they&#8217;re like maids/servants rather than &#8216;slaves&#8217;. So you have to treat them well, and feed and clothe them with the same standard you yourself wear and what you give to your own family.</p>
<p>So regarding marriage, the actual contract makes official the passing of guardianship from the father of the girl to the husband. That&#8217;s what it is essentially, however for a slave girl, her guardian is already the &#8216;master&#8217; so the actual marriage is not needed, but she practically has the same rights as a wife. So if the owner and slavewoman want to have a relationship they can without the marriage contract. However the quran says that you&#8217;re not allowed to force them against their will, and its only if they agree to it. Any children born would still have the same rights as any children born under a marriage contract. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m using the words &#8216;master&#8217; and &#8216;slave&#8217; for want of better words to be honest, I don&#8217;t really like what they imply but just using them for explanation purposes. No human has the right to &#8216;own&#8217; another human being, so the words servant or maids are much better choices, I just used &#8216;slave&#8217; because you did.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Stop Using the Word &#8220;Mistress&#8221; by reni</title>
		<link>http://feministlookingglass.com/2010/01/22/stop-using-the-word-mistress/#comment-6485</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[reni]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 May 2012 16:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[So, what is the best term used for &quot;it&quot;?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what is the best term used for &#8220;it&#8221;?</p>
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		<title>Comment on &#8220;I Believe in Women&#8217;s Rights.  So Did Muhammad&#8221; by Umm...</title>
		<link>http://feministlookingglass.com/2010/06/15/i-believe-in-womens-rights-so-did-muhammad/#comment-6483</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Umm...]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 May 2012 11:50:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;...women had no rights for themselves and were used for sexual exploitation. Islam condemned this and was sent to put a stop to this.&quot;

RE
This doesn&#039;t appear to be true for slave women.  Quran 4:24 says they can be used for sex by their owner, even if they&#039;re already married to someone else.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;women had no rights for themselves and were used for sexual exploitation. Islam condemned this and was sent to put a stop to this.&#8221;</p>
<p>RE<br />
This doesn&#8217;t appear to be true for slave women.  Quran 4:24 says they can be used for sex by their owner, even if they&#8217;re already married to someone else.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESPN’s Sports Center Shows Almost No Highlights of Women’s Sports by alexyorch</title>
		<link>http://feministlookingglass.com/2010/06/05/espn%e2%80%99s-sports-center-shows-almost-no-highlights-of-women%e2%80%99s-sports/#comment-6449</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alexyorch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 15:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;A person can get the same enjoyment and thrill in watching a son’s or daughter’s youth league basketball game as in watching a high school game, a college game, or a professional game.&quot;

I 100% agree, but we are getting away from sportscenter&#039;s coverage a little here arn&#039;t we?  I never said watching non-professional competition wasn&#039;t entertaining in its own right.   But you claim that geography has a lot to do with fan interest/following.   I would counter your argument with this. http://yourather.com/550/value-of-sports
 
Its an online poll of over 23k people.  85% would rather find 5 DOLLARS than have their WNBA team win a championship.  Now I know this isn&#039;t an official study, but how far off can it really be?  And maybe it just speaks to people&#039;s greediness, but when I look at that, I see little to no interest from the general public in the WNBA.  Why? I don&#039;t know, but 85% of people feel the same way I do. 

So getting back to my original criticism, this is an issue of general interest.  Sportscenter chooses not to air most wnba highlights because no one really cares.  ESPN can&#039;t be condemed for using good business practices...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;A person can get the same enjoyment and thrill in watching a son’s or daughter’s youth league basketball game as in watching a high school game, a college game, or a professional game.&#8221;</p>
<p>I 100% agree, but we are getting away from sportscenter&#8217;s coverage a little here arn&#8217;t we?  I never said watching non-professional competition wasn&#8217;t entertaining in its own right.   But you claim that geography has a lot to do with fan interest/following.   I would counter your argument with this. <a href="http://yourather.com/550/value-of-sports" rel="nofollow">http://yourather.com/550/value-of-sports</a></p>
<p>Its an online poll of over 23k people.  85% would rather find 5 DOLLARS than have their WNBA team win a championship.  Now I know this isn&#8217;t an official study, but how far off can it really be?  And maybe it just speaks to people&#8217;s greediness, but when I look at that, I see little to no interest from the general public in the WNBA.  Why? I don&#8217;t know, but 85% of people feel the same way I do. </p>
<p>So getting back to my original criticism, this is an issue of general interest.  Sportscenter chooses not to air most wnba highlights because no one really cares.  ESPN can&#8217;t be condemed for using good business practices&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESPN’s Sports Center Shows Almost No Highlights of Women’s Sports by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2012 14:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Again, I really can’t disagree with most of what you say—with one very big exception.  You say that “We are fans of these leagues because they present the very [best] this sport has to offer.”  (I assume you meant “best.”)  You mention “MLB, NFL, NBA, NCAA and NHL” as the entities you watch, which presumably are the ones you think fit into the category of the “best the sport has to offer.“  But, obviously, NCAA men’s basketball is not the same caliber of play as the NBA.  Neither is NCAA football the same caliber as the NFL.  Personally, I prefer watching NCAA basketball over the NBA, which I would imagine is the same for a lot of people, maybe even you.  

All I am saying is that the quality of play is not a completely overriding reason for why people watch a sport on TV.  Your statement that “The LPGA and WNBA for example, are not the best in the world” is not the overriding reason why they do not get as many viewers as other entities.

I think professional soccer is an interesting example of sports viewership.   You mention that the lower tiers in English soccer “don&#039;t get the same exposure as the Premiere league because the level of competition is lower.”  It’s certainly true that the level is lower.  But even though everyone would say that the EPL has the best talent in the world, that doesn’t mean that the Italian Serie A followers would rather watch an EPL game on TV, even though I’d think they would have the option of watching any European league they want.  But, here in the U.S., I prefer watching the top games in the EPL, Champions League, and Barcelona and Real Madrid, over the MLS games—with the exception that I watch as many of my home team’s (DC United) games as I can.  In other words, teams that people have chosen to root for (frequently based on geography), rather than skill level, are one of the biggest factors moving a person to watch a game on TV.  

There are many reasons why a person chooses to root for a particular team.  Skill level is only one of the many.  A person can get the same enjoyment and thrill in watching a son’s or daughter’s youth league basketball game as in watching a high school game, a college game, or a professional game.  ESPN is continuing to increase the number of high school basketball games it televises.  Obviously, the skill level is not the same as in the NBA.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, I really can’t disagree with most of what you say—with one very big exception.  You say that “We are fans of these leagues because they present the very [best] this sport has to offer.”  (I assume you meant “best.”)  You mention “MLB, NFL, NBA, NCAA and NHL” as the entities you watch, which presumably are the ones you think fit into the category of the “best the sport has to offer.“  But, obviously, NCAA men’s basketball is not the same caliber of play as the NBA.  Neither is NCAA football the same caliber as the NFL.  Personally, I prefer watching NCAA basketball over the NBA, which I would imagine is the same for a lot of people, maybe even you.  </p>
<p>All I am saying is that the quality of play is not a completely overriding reason for why people watch a sport on TV.  Your statement that “The LPGA and WNBA for example, are not the best in the world” is not the overriding reason why they do not get as many viewers as other entities.</p>
<p>I think professional soccer is an interesting example of sports viewership.   You mention that the lower tiers in English soccer “don&#8217;t get the same exposure as the Premiere league because the level of competition is lower.”  It’s certainly true that the level is lower.  But even though everyone would say that the EPL has the best talent in the world, that doesn’t mean that the Italian Serie A followers would rather watch an EPL game on TV, even though I’d think they would have the option of watching any European league they want.  But, here in the U.S., I prefer watching the top games in the EPL, Champions League, and Barcelona and Real Madrid, over the MLS games—with the exception that I watch as many of my home team’s (DC United) games as I can.  In other words, teams that people have chosen to root for (frequently based on geography), rather than skill level, are one of the biggest factors moving a person to watch a game on TV.  </p>
<p>There are many reasons why a person chooses to root for a particular team.  Skill level is only one of the many.  A person can get the same enjoyment and thrill in watching a son’s or daughter’s youth league basketball game as in watching a high school game, a college game, or a professional game.  ESPN is continuing to increase the number of high school basketball games it televises.  Obviously, the skill level is not the same as in the NBA.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESPN’s Sports Center Shows Almost No Highlights of Women’s Sports by alexyorch</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[alexyorch]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 23:44:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would say that just because women&#039;s sports have increased in participation doesn&#039;t mean the interest in them has increased as well.  
Windsurfing and kiteboarding, for example, have seen a dramatic increase in participants but their exposure in mainstream sports media has been virtually non-existant.   The same can be said for women&#039;s athletics.  While there are now more female athletes than ever, the demand to view them has stayed low.  Why? I can&#039;t say.  Personally, I don&#039;t watch them because keeping up with the MLB, NFL, NBA, NCAA and NHL takes enough time as it is.   I would make time if I cared, but I dont.. Heres why. 

They simply are not the best in the world.  We are fans of these leagues because they present the very this sport has to offer.  The LPGA and WNBA for example, are not the best in the world.  Let me explain. 

I&#039;m ready to get a wave of backlash for this statement, but women can&#039;t compete with men in most athletics.  If you disagree, I&#039;ll ask you why the olympic games are separated by gender?  Or any other professional sport for that matter.   Men are just physically bigger and stronger.  I&#039;m not trying to say women are not physically strong, but I think you would agree that men are &quot;built&quot; for sports and competition more so than women.

On a grand scale (and there are THOUSANDS of exceptions, I&#039;m sure)  Women can&#039;t compete at the level men can.  Theres a reason Brittany Greiner dunking gets a lot of attention -- It just doesn&#039;t happen very often.  Theres a reason the NBA doesn&#039;t have any female players...

Again, I&#039;m not saying this to discredit female athletes.  They work just as hard as men do, if not harder.  

I&#039;m saying this because it sheds light on why people who watch sportscenter don&#039;t care about women&#039;s sports.  Its like lower tier football (soccer) in England.  There are lower level leagues that exist (and have very rapid followers like the WNBA) but they don&#039;t get the same exposure as the Premiere league because the level of competition is lower.  They aren&#039;t seeing the very best footballers in the world, and that is a BIG part of what makes watching it worthwhile.

So realize that ESPN is a business that aims to satisfy their average viewers wants - which I&#039;m sorry to say, doesn&#039;t include women&#039;s sports.  So while there may be more female athletes than ever before, the good ol&#039; boys just want to watch some football and drink their beer.  They arn&#039;t trying to discredit women&#039;s sports, they just could frankly care less.  

Make no mistake, ESPN knows EXACTLY what coverage gets them the most viewers.  (NFL, NBA, MLB)  Being a NHL fan first an foremost, I wish it were different.  But its not.  And I&#039;ve learned to deal with it by getting my NHL news elsewere.  I&#039;d suggest you do the same with women&#039;s sports.

Its not an issue of gender.  Its an issue of interest.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would say that just because women&#8217;s sports have increased in participation doesn&#8217;t mean the interest in them has increased as well.<br />
Windsurfing and kiteboarding, for example, have seen a dramatic increase in participants but their exposure in mainstream sports media has been virtually non-existant.   The same can be said for women&#8217;s athletics.  While there are now more female athletes than ever, the demand to view them has stayed low.  Why? I can&#8217;t say.  Personally, I don&#8217;t watch them because keeping up with the MLB, NFL, NBA, NCAA and NHL takes enough time as it is.   I would make time if I cared, but I dont.. Heres why. </p>
<p>They simply are not the best in the world.  We are fans of these leagues because they present the very this sport has to offer.  The LPGA and WNBA for example, are not the best in the world.  Let me explain. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m ready to get a wave of backlash for this statement, but women can&#8217;t compete with men in most athletics.  If you disagree, I&#8217;ll ask you why the olympic games are separated by gender?  Or any other professional sport for that matter.   Men are just physically bigger and stronger.  I&#8217;m not trying to say women are not physically strong, but I think you would agree that men are &#8220;built&#8221; for sports and competition more so than women.</p>
<p>On a grand scale (and there are THOUSANDS of exceptions, I&#8217;m sure)  Women can&#8217;t compete at the level men can.  Theres a reason Brittany Greiner dunking gets a lot of attention &#8212; It just doesn&#8217;t happen very often.  Theres a reason the NBA doesn&#8217;t have any female players&#8230;</p>
<p>Again, I&#8217;m not saying this to discredit female athletes.  They work just as hard as men do, if not harder.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m saying this because it sheds light on why people who watch sportscenter don&#8217;t care about women&#8217;s sports.  Its like lower tier football (soccer) in England.  There are lower level leagues that exist (and have very rapid followers like the WNBA) but they don&#8217;t get the same exposure as the Premiere league because the level of competition is lower.  They aren&#8217;t seeing the very best footballers in the world, and that is a BIG part of what makes watching it worthwhile.</p>
<p>So realize that ESPN is a business that aims to satisfy their average viewers wants &#8211; which I&#8217;m sorry to say, doesn&#8217;t include women&#8217;s sports.  So while there may be more female athletes than ever before, the good ol&#8217; boys just want to watch some football and drink their beer.  They arn&#8217;t trying to discredit women&#8217;s sports, they just could frankly care less.  </p>
<p>Make no mistake, ESPN knows EXACTLY what coverage gets them the most viewers.  (NFL, NBA, MLB)  Being a NHL fan first an foremost, I wish it were different.  But its not.  And I&#8217;ve learned to deal with it by getting my NHL news elsewere.  I&#8217;d suggest you do the same with women&#8217;s sports.</p>
<p>Its not an issue of gender.  Its an issue of interest.</p>
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		<title>Comment on ESPN’s Sports Center Shows Almost No Highlights of Women’s Sports by Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2012 20:04:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I can&#039;t disagree with what you say, but how do you account for the figures that show that ESPN is now devoting the smallest percentage of its time to women sports in the last two decades?  This in a time when women&#039;s sports have greatly increased.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can&#8217;t disagree with what you say, but how do you account for the figures that show that ESPN is now devoting the smallest percentage of its time to women sports in the last two decades?  This in a time when women&#8217;s sports have greatly increased.</p>
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